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Government officials now say at least 32 people – in addition to the gunman – have been killed today at Virginia Tech University, making it the deadliest mass shooting in U-S history. It’s not clear if the gunman killed himself or if he was killed by police.
Witnesses at the school say they saw students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to avoid gunfire. The first shooting happened in a dorm on one side of campus, and was followed at least two hours later by the shootings in the classroom building, which is on the other side.
Some students say they thought precautions on campus had been lifted after the first shooting.



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Horaayy..there are 61 comment(s) for me so far ;)

# 1 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 3:39 am

Has anyone else noticed that in the top picture, the shot guy’s JUNK is sticking out????


# 2 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 3:59 am

“Anonymous said…

This is yet again an example of why the USA is a terrible country. I’m a citizen – a ‘normal white guy’ living in SF – just so you don’t think I’m a foreign US hater. It’s freaking retarded that we continue to allow people to buy guns that have magazine clips allowing the shooter to easily fire multiple rounds. Handguns and ANY gun allowing the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading should be illegal. You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns. I can’t believe that some NRA group put out a press release stating that this wouldn’t have happened if the other students were able to carry conceiled handguns – what freaking dumb asses – can you imagine every jackass on the street carrying a gun?! It may take us 50 years to get there, but we really must have much more stringent laws on the manufacture and distribution of guns on the US – and get the existing guns off the street and black market. Just look at our murder rates by guns vs. that of any other 1st world nation. WE ARE THE FOOLS. This needs to be an issue at the forfront of the upcoming presidential race – gun control. Make your voice and vote count.”


Just the second sentence, the fact that you live in SF, makes me doubt your cognitive capacity. From what I have seen nearly everyone in the country view the “important laws” being passed left and right in SF as ridiculous and completely illegitimate. Our country needs some people to step up and make some changes for the better instead of attempting all this prissy “its all the gun’s fault” bullshit. I’m an 18 year old kid who has been able to hit a bullseye at 100 yards with a rifle since i was 7 years old (no joke), not to mention i have probably watched more violent movies and played more violent video games than many people, and yet I still have the ability to discern right from wrong and real from fake. The reason we have so many psychopaths in the country is because of the lack of general education and poor parenting that continues on as a general rule in this country day after day. Its because everyone wants everything spoon fed to them, many of whom have no common sense or ability to make decisions for themselves.


# 3 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 4:40 am

Guns are a tool meant to be used to defend good, not to promote evil. If just one student in one of those
classrooms had been allowed to practice their God-given right of self-defense, by carrying a firearm, the death toll would have been far lower.

One might think that Europe, a region with a history of evil tyrants, would understand and agree with the US 2nd Amendment. Sadly, rape victims, robbery victims etc., in Europe, have absolutely no immediate personal recourse in preserving their physical well-being. Instead, they are left at the mercy of people, like the Virginia killer, who have no regard for laws of civility.

It is said that America’s 2nd Amendment preserves the rest of the constitution. It endures as a method for the common man to thwart the evil intent of criminals, tyrants and invaders. This is not a right bestowed by any Government. No, this is the right of self-preservation that shall never be infringed upon!

In the minds of those of us that understand this very basic premise, we share in the grief of the friends and families of those lost in Virginia; for it is our loss as well. But we also understand that only evil intents will be served, and those lost will have died in vain, if this incident is used to promote any further discussion on the matter of gun confiscation.


# 4 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 6:30 am

Anonymous said…

“This is yet again an example of why the USA is a terrible country. I’m a citizen – a ‘normal white guy’ living in SF – just so you don’t think I’m a foreign US hater.”

Because people in SF are universally known for their unbiased views. Identifying yourself as a liberal does not autmatically make you the most open-minded person in the room.

“It’s freaking retarded that we continue to allow people to buy guns that have magazine clips allowing the shooter to easily fire multiple rounds. Handguns and ANY gun allowing the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading should be illegal.”

This is a statement of opinion that seems to have no basis in reality. Unless it’s an antique or a specialty firearm, most guns “allow the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading.” Please acquire a basic working knowledge of your subject that is not based on what you see on television or the oft-recycled talking points of your likewise ill-informed friends before forming an opinion that you feel compelled to share with the rest of us.

“You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns.”

What a relief to know that I can still have freedom of religion, speech, press, and assembly while armed with my shotgun. Seems like maybe you need a refresher on the Constitution, if indeed you’ve ever even bothered reading it. Here’s something that will rock your world: “Snipers” use single shot bolt-action hunting rifles. You should probably stop speaking now, but I’m betting you’re about to start crusading against these dangerous single shot rifles next.

“I can’t believe that some NRA group put out a press release stating that this wouldn’t have happened if the other students were able to carry conceiled handguns”

Do you know that they are wrong, or are you simply driven to disagree with them because of who they are? Their point is not necessarily to advocate more people carrying guns. In this case, they obviously knew that people like you were going to jump on the hysteria bandwagon, and they felt a need to premptively re-state their support of protecting law abiding citizens right to carry firearms in a legal manner.

“what freaking dumb asses – can you imagine every jackass on the street carrying a gun?!”

Yes, because that’s EXACTLY what they were saying. Idiot.

“It may take us 50 years to get there, but we really must have much more stringent laws on the manufacture and distribution of guns on the US”

First of all; not going to happen. You’re obviously not a student of history, or you know that something like that is especially unlikely to happen in a mere 50 years without some sort of brownshirt style government crackdown. Second; historically all this ever course of action ever does is put guns squarely in the hands of criminals. This case in particular is an excellent demonstration of why you should keep your idiotic half-formed opinions to yourself. Like most criminals, he got the guns illegaly. Making it harder for a law abiding citizen to buy a gun is not going to affect a determined person like him.

“- and get the existing guns off the street and black market.”

Oh, good thing you covered your ass with that one. See how well it worked in Russia, or Britain. Yes, Britain. Look it up.

Just look at our murder rates by guns vs. that of any other 1st world nation. WE ARE THE FOOLS.

What do you mean “we”, paleface? We have more gun violence, they have more bat, machete, and gang beating violence. Your stance is poorly constructed and alarmingly narrow in focus. Unsurprisingly, it sounds more like a soundbite than a well-constructed opinion.

“This needs to be an issue at the forfront of the upcoming presidential race – gun control. Make your voice and vote count.”

Yes, because focusing on hot-button issues like gun control and oh, say, gay marriage, as opposed to broader issues of policy and foreign relations has never bitten us in the ass before. People like you are going to hand the republicans another election.

Please STFU until you manage to educate yourself in a manner that challenges your pre-existing opinions.


# 5 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 6:52 am

lol, the fact people missed out on what caused this person to kill people:

Enormous stress caused by peoples inherent racism and prejudice.

I’m sure this kid had to put up with a lot of shit in his life yet he is demonized as a “killer” he was a STUDENT and HUMAN BEING who for some reason took his frustration out on others… I think the better question is: Are citizens themselves the prejudiced racist barbarians that ask turn normal human beings into killers do to their petty racism and prejudice?

The answer is not more guns for more people, the answer is this: You humanity are barbarians, you stress people out to to the brink in your own neglect of treating other people with decency, yet you are the most mindless digusting hed like creature imaginable: 21st century commercial barbarian, who’s only goal is what can I consume today?

Most people are barbarians I’m not surprised school shootings keep happening, most people are disgusting creatures to begin with who deserve little more then a bullet in the back of the head and a quick death.


# 6 - Matt - 18/04/2007 - 11:25 am

“Like most criminals, he got the guns illegaly.”

See, that’s not true. He bought two guns legally. You are spreading false information. Not only is this ethically wrong, it also destroys the credibility of the rest of your argument.

“Hell, their citizens go to jail for defending themselves with knives against criminals with guns.”

Also not true. It is perfectly legal in Australia to defend yourself, even with a gun, if your life is in danger. Of course, the gun must be registered and the owner must be licensed.

“Guns are banned at VT and that’s WHY this happened in a bad way. If guns would have been allowed, there would have been less than 5 people killed.”

This is a logical fallacy. This person bought the guns legally. If he was unable to legally obtain a gun then it would have been much harder for him to get it. A large amount of the weapons on the black market are weapons that have been legally purchased and then stolen. It’s certainly not the case for all of them, but if you have done the reading like you all seem to say, then you’d know that. Tighter gun restrictions also make it much harder for straw purchases to occur, which is how the Columbine shooters got their weapons.

Gun control is not about preventing gun related crime. It’s about minimizing it. There are several things that need to be done.

Require licenses, registration and background checks for all gun sales. Increase the penalties for the illegal sale of weapons and increase the resources for the agencies who have the responsibility to enforce this. At the same time we need to look into why these types of incidents are occurring. Why is it that a person feels the need to go out and shoot 32 people? Is this indicative of a prevailing social problem?


# 7 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 6:01 pm

It’s like Conter Strike but for reals…

/Terrorists win


# 8 - Jonas - 18/04/2007 - 6:54 pm

I know banning guns is no option, but obviously something needs to be done. Perhaps a simple phsych test to see if someone is likely to snap before you give them a gun? True any criminal can get a gun if he really wants to, but a lot of these things are crimes of passion, and are not thought out before hand. If someone snaps, and has anything OTHER than a gun in his hand, a lot less people will die.


# 9 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 8:31 pm

US has great gun laws. how bout some more guns, maybe for free?


# 10 - Anonymous - 19/04/2007 - 12:12 am

You guys are retarded, no gun laws are going to make a damn bit of difference. Just because you live in the middle of a city and can’t see any reason for an American to have a gun, doesn’t mean that they should be banned or production on them should be stopped. Maybe you don’t NEED a gun or WANT a gun, but its my fuggin right to have my guns. To take a stance against firearms, just shows your ignorance as to what most Americans use guns for, its not like every gun sold is sold with the intent to kill someone, or yeah, that would make perfect sense to ban them.


# 11 - just.xTc - 19/04/2007 - 6:16 am

Some guy said…

“The answer is not more guns for more people, the answer is this: You humanity are barbarians, you stress people out to to the brink in your own neglect of treating other people with decency, yet you are the most mindless disgusting head like creature imaginable: 21st century commercial barbarian, who’s only goal is what can I consume today?”

So true. Humans are shit, laws can’t change that because we are inherently evil, prejudiced and violent. Where else do we get rednecks and conservatives?


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