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Government officials now say at least 32 people – in addition to the gunman – have been killed today at Virginia Tech University, making it the deadliest mass shooting in U-S history. It’s not clear if the gunman killed himself or if he was killed by police.
Witnesses at the school say they saw students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to avoid gunfire. The first shooting happened in a dorm on one side of campus, and was followed at least two hours later by the shootings in the classroom building, which is on the other side.
Some students say they thought precautions on campus had been lifted after the first shooting.


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Horaayy..there are 61 comment(s) for me so far ;)

# 1 - Orhan Kahn - 17/04/2007 - 3:31 pm

That is all truly insane!


# 2 - frosted - 17/04/2007 - 7:23 pm

Oh shnap!


# 3 - Zulon - 17/04/2007 - 7:28 pm

This a tragedy…One can only imagine what the families are going through. How did this lunatic get his hands on a gun(s)? Surely there is some basic check before people can buy arms etc, even in the US?


# 4 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 7:29 pm

of course, they go and find an asian and arrest him…


# 5 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 7:35 pm

Not to be disrespectful, but is that a penis I see in the first picture?


# 6 - Javier - 17/04/2007 - 7:41 pm

dad?


# 7 - ORCAdmin - 17/04/2007 - 7:41 pm

Yeah…Ofcourse…Retard


# 8 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 7:44 pm

of course, HE FITS THE DESCRIPTION AND THERE’S A GUNMAN RUNNING LOOSE KILLING PEOPLE!

jesus with PC sensitivity. good lord, if it was a white guy I’d expect white guys to be arrested, a black guy, a black guy should be arrested. And the cops shouldn’t be concerned with overly sensitive people like you admonishing them.

please, use some logic and stay away from emotion on occasion!


# 9 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 7:46 pm

They arrested the asian because he went inside the building trying to get pictures. police did not know/nor cared that he worked for the school paper.


# 10 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 7:48 pm

God bless America. ROFL.


# 11 - SinkToTheBeat - 17/04/2007 - 7:53 pm

“How did this lunatic get his hands on a gun(s)? Surely there is some basic check before people can buy arms etc, even in the US?”

It may have been his first offense, in which he could have gotten guns legally. If not, criminals can always get access to weapons through illegal means. It’s unfortunate no one else in the immediate area had a gun, or some of those deaths could have been prevented, but I heard (don’t quote me on this) that VT is a gun free area with the exception of public law enforcement.


# 12 - John - 17/04/2007 - 7:58 pm

Is that Asian dude (8th pic) being subdued by that officer? If so, Why?


# 13 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 8:05 pm

I believe he was a photographer. He was very near the crime scene and was acting kind of strange, but that is how he normally is.


# 14 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 8:09 pm

“Anonymous said…

of course, they go and find an asian and arrest him…”

You’re a total dipshit. Asians are not at all stereotyped to be violent. You’re not smart. Don’t try to be.


# 15 - woody - 17/04/2007 - 8:18 pm

the latest is that they think the shooter was south korean in origin of permanent residence status, although it has not been confirmed yet.

i would not be surprised as many traditional koreans have a high honor code similar to the japanese, and that they think death somehow is justified to appease this code. just my speculation.

also it may be another case of loner gets teased and bullied until he cant take it anymore.

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# 16 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 8:37 pm

It’s irrelevant if a stereotype dictates one thing or another. All people have the ability to commit violent acts.

Period.

The fact remains–if you fall under the category of a particular gender, race and appearance similar to a criminal at large chances are you will be detained.


# 17 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 8:38 pm

This is yet again an example of why the USA is a terrible country. I’m a citizen – a ‘normal white guy’ living in SF – just so you don’t think I’m a foreign US hater. It’s freaking retarded that we continue to allow people to buy guns that have magazine clips allowing the shooter to easily fire multiple rounds. Handguns and ANY gun allowing the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading should be illegal. You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns. I can’t believe that some NRA group put out a press release stating that this wouldn’t have happened if the other students were able to carry conceiled handguns – what freaking dumb asses – can you imagine every jackass on the street carrying a gun?! It may take us 50 years to get there, but we really must have much more stringent laws on the manufacture and distribution of guns on the US – and get the existing guns off the street and black market. Just look at our murder rates by guns vs. that of any other 1st world nation. WE ARE THE FOOLS. This needs to be an issue at the forfront of the upcoming presidential race – gun control. Make your voice and vote count.


# 18 - Hip Hop - 17/04/2007 - 8:41 pm

Wow very sad


# 19 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 8:43 pm

The girl in the white t-shirt looks kind of hot……


# 20 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 8:48 pm

Access to guns and weapons in the US is too easy. Having shown other similar events has given ideas to lots of people. And this has also been exported to Europe and the rest of the world, following th US trend. Sad, very sad, we must stop selling weapons.


# 21 - Angela - 17/04/2007 - 9:01 pm

Bowling for Columbine, anyone?


# 22 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:06 pm

Really amazing! I could not imagine being in their shoes and hearing this lunatic coming toward my class room.

My prayers are with the family..

by the way I know, I know the last comment by the anonymous individual was not appropriate but I laughed!


# 23 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:09 pm

to the jacka$$ wanting to restrict guns, you’re simply looking to blame something which has absolutely nothing to do with what this guy did. He could have used a sledgehammer or sword just as easily and effectively. Should we require all men to remove their junk because that’s what causes rape?


# 24 - PENIX - 17/04/2007 - 9:09 pm

JEWS DID VIRGINIA TECH!


# 25 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:10 pm

if the ‘killer’ was on a suicide mission,why were the serial numbers on the gun filed off??


# 26 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:20 pm

Some of the gun control comments on here are absolutely idiotic and flawed. The idiot with the long comment doesn’t even get the amendment correct…


# 27 - swpg - 17/04/2007 - 9:22 pm

why is it that the asian guy is being arrested while the rest of the people are being carried out?


# 28 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:25 pm

The serial numbers got filed off the gun by the criminal who sold these guns to the kid. Obvious black market guns. TOugher gun control, right?


# 29 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:28 pm

i see nothing wrong with better gun restrictions. and using a stupid sledgehammer and sword isnt the same as using a gun. a gun can injure plenty in a matter of seconds. if a guy used a sledgehammer/sword people have a way better chance of escaping than a gun that could shoot out and hit them if they moved one inch. honestly the one who posted about guns are the same as sledgehammer is pretty stupid.


# 30 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:31 pm

bunch of redneck idiotic policemen who are useless, only good for cleaning up the corpses


# 31 - Trenton - 17/04/2007 - 9:33 pm

@Zulon,
We do check peoples histories and if they haven’t had any major run-ins with the cops we will sell a gun. But still it’s so simple to get a gun illegally I can walk to my local grocery store and buy one from the owner.


# 32 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:34 pm

Gun control?? Do you realize that in EVERY state that has passed right-to-carry laws that allow their citizens to carry concealed hand guns violent crime rates have fallen dramatically? It’s just the opposite in states and localities that don’t allow concealed carry. Take a look at D.C. Until just recently D.C. has had some of the most draconian gun control laws in the nation, and you guessed it, one of the highest violent crime rates in the nation. BTW, the Supreme Court just ruled that the D.C. gun control laws were unconstitutional (2nd Amendment, not 1st, moron). Unless they challenge the ruling I would count on crime rates dropping in D.C. over the next several years. That’s how it happened in all other states that made the same decisions. I won’t even go into the crime rates in Europe and Australia. I’m sure you can guess what I’d say. ;)

The 2nd Amendment gives the People the ability to defend *themselves* against crime. The premise behind the 2nd Amendment had nothing directly to do with hunting. Our founding fathers wanted to make sure that we had the ability to defend ourselves against foreign and domestic governments as well as our homes against criminals. That’s right, even against our own government if need-be. Read your history books. There are a lot of valuable lessons to be learned when it comes to the history of restricting the rights of citizens to defend themselves.

Why do you think Japan decided not to invade the North American mainland? That’s right! A Japanese General had been quoted saying that a big reason why they decided not to invade was the fact that possession of firearms by U.S. citizens is allowed under our 2nd Amendment.

Oh, and a single-shot handgun, shotgun or rifle is almost useless in a self-defense situation if the presence of the gun alone doesn’t solve the problem. Unless you’re a very good shooter chances are you won’t hit your target on the first shot. That’s the whole point of semi-automatic guns. You might need that second, third or fourth shot. I doubt the criminal will be nice enough to give you a time-out while you reload your gun!

In the hands of responsible people, guns save lives. Every day. Most of the time without a single shot fired. Of course the media doesn’t run with those stories. It doesn’t interest their viewers.

If an armed criminal enters your home would you not want to have the chance to effectively defend yourself and your family? Or would you rather wait for the police to show up, assuming you even get a chance to call them. Police don’t (can’t) prevent crimes unless there is a constant presence. I don’t know about you, but I can’t afford to pay an officer to follow me around every day.


# 33 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:37 pm

This is madnes!! Indeed,God bless America and their stupid gun laws!


# 34 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:41 pm

Guns aren’t going away. Probably not ever. More guns have been manufactured than there are U.S. citizens. Millions of guns are either being sold on the black market or in the hands of criminals. Thousands come into the country illegally every year to be sold on the black market. There’s just no feasible way to prevent it.

Do you really think that passing strict guns laws will prevent people from using them to commit crimes? Nope. Criminals aren’t going to decide to turn in their guns or stop buying them. It just prevents law-abiding people from defending themselves.

Why do you think that the crime rate in countries such as Europe and Australia is so high? Hell, their citizens go to jail for defending themselves with knives against criminals with guns. Is that what we want?


# 35 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:44 pm

Them damn crazy Koreans, with their 10 speed bikes and hot-garbage breath.


# 36 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:49 pm

the serial numbers were not filed off by those who sold him the gun..its documented he bought the guns legally..both of them..he believed his deceitful ‘controllers’ would allow him to live after his initial dual murder..the preceding carnage perpetrated by other hollywood styled disguised illuisionist..cho was murdered as suicide to take the fall…as the lone gunman


# 37 - KrazyCraig - 17/04/2007 - 9:51 pm

“Surely there is some basic check before people can buy arms.”

Not when you buy them out of the trunk of a 1979 Cadillac with spinners and gold dollar sign necklaces hanging from the mirror. It’s quite easy to get a weapon in this country if you know someone and don’t mind it having the serial number filed off.


# 38 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 9:57 pm

…just putting this incident on my weight of morality… 32 killed americans is a disaster… and between 61000 and 150000 dead iraqi civialians is common sense? Sorry US, but Bush and his people is no better than the Virginia gunman…


# 39 - Digg User - 17/04/2007 - 10:02 pm

stfu about throwing away political correctness out the window in times like this. You only say that because your White and because you’ve never faced racial discrimination by police or authoritative figures.


# 40 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 10:11 pm

It’s just as easy to buy illegal guns in other countries that have more strict gun laws than the U.S. Criminals in all countries have guns. They always will. Gun control laws don’t prevent the buying and selling of illegal guns. They only prevent law abiding people from defending themselves from them.

Criminals don’t follow laws. That’s why we call them criminals people!


# 41 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 10:18 pm

” Anonymous said…

This is yet again an example of why the USA is a terrible country. I’m a citizen – a ‘normal white guy’ living in SF – just so you don’t think I’m a foreign US hater. It’s freaking retarded that we continue to allow people to buy guns that have magazine clips allowing the shooter to easily fire multiple rounds. Handguns and ANY gun allowing the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading should be illegal. You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns. I can’t believe that some NRA group put out a press release stating that this wouldn’t have happened if the other students were able to carry conceiled handguns – what freaking dumb asses – can you imagine every jackass on the street carrying a gun?! It may take us 50 years to get there, but we really must have much more stringent laws on the manufacture and distribution of guns on the US – and get the existing guns off the street and black market. Just look at our murder rates by guns vs. that of any other 1st world nation. WE ARE THE FOOLS. This needs to be an issue at the forfront of the upcoming presidential race – gun control. Make your voice and vote count.”

I would first like to ask why I should take you seriously. This is the first amendment, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

The second amendment is the one you were looking for. I would like to quote that also. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Please actually know what your talking about before you talk about it.

Next would like the quote the Declaration of Independence, “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” I guarantee that someday that part will become very true. How do you expect to keep a government with such advanced weapons technology from becoming too powerful with single shot rifles.


# 42 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 10:19 pm

Only in america… we need to kill that koreans bitches


# 43 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 10:25 pm

i’m glad law enforcement saw an asian guy with glasses and decided to arrest him. there’s no such thing as racial profiling.

however this is a tragic event, and my heart goes out to all the families that lost a loved one due to Cho Seung Hui’s rampage.


# 44 - Anonymous - 17/04/2007 - 11:38 pm

For the last time, the asian man who got arrested was a REPORTER who got too close for comfort, so more of this.

A prayer for all invovled and for America’s future


# 45 - Nerys - 17/04/2007 - 11:47 pm

“You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns.”

First its the 2nd amendment not the 1st and secondly.

The constitution is clearn. SHALL MAKE NO LAW. not shall make no laws except for guns firing more than one shot. its SHALL MAKE NO LAWS.

This means ANY restrictions on guns to law abiding citizens is illegal.

It was already illegal for him to posses that gun. Clearly he did not care. This also clearly shows that GUN LAWS are meaningless. IE it was again illegal for him to posses that gun. He did it anyway. We call those people CRIMINALS. you know those people who IGNORE the laws.

What is the point of extraneous laws that ONLY law abiding citizens will adhere to? There is no point yet we keep creating them…


# 46 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 12:12 am

why did they let a korean have a gun anyway


# 47 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 12:18 am

Guns are banned at VT and that’s WHY this happened in a bad way. If guns would have been allowed, there would have been less than 5 people killed. Don’t be stupid, criminals and idiot asians/white/blacks will always be able to get their hands on guns. You punish the innocent by preventing them to defend themselves. Rear the constitution, it’s in direct conflict with what that piece of paper says. If you don’t like it, go live somewhere else.


# 48 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 12:31 am

thanks god I don`t live in USA


# 49 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 12:50 am

The guy is being arrested because he was going in to take pictures and also was being checked because he fit the description of the killer. Not because he was just any other Asian.

And for the one’s not taking this seriously about the killings needs to get some other hobby rather than saying cruel things.

The gun control issues are a big concern in America and I have to agree with the gentleman who is from SF. I think we have to start realizing, and I don’t know how many killings have to go on before we realize this, that guns are too EASY to get a hold of and go on some insane rampage! But, such is America, I suppose.

Also, my deepest and most sincere prayers go out to all the families who lost loved one’s and their friends.


# 50 - dewyjuhl@gmail.com - 18/04/2007 - 2:25 am

ok all you people who are using this as leverage for gun control laws need to shut the fuck up. I’m sorry but this is a tragedy not just another source you can cite for your argument. And even if we got rid of guns all together i’m pretty sure a homicidal maniac who plans on shooting himself afterwards isn’t going to say “darn the bad luck, guess i can’t go through with my plans because of the law. Curse you meddling bloggers!”


# 51 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 3:39 am

Has anyone else noticed that in the top picture, the shot guy’s JUNK is sticking out????


# 52 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 3:59 am

“Anonymous said…

This is yet again an example of why the USA is a terrible country. I’m a citizen – a ‘normal white guy’ living in SF – just so you don’t think I’m a foreign US hater. It’s freaking retarded that we continue to allow people to buy guns that have magazine clips allowing the shooter to easily fire multiple rounds. Handguns and ANY gun allowing the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading should be illegal. You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns. I can’t believe that some NRA group put out a press release stating that this wouldn’t have happened if the other students were able to carry conceiled handguns – what freaking dumb asses – can you imagine every jackass on the street carrying a gun?! It may take us 50 years to get there, but we really must have much more stringent laws on the manufacture and distribution of guns on the US – and get the existing guns off the street and black market. Just look at our murder rates by guns vs. that of any other 1st world nation. WE ARE THE FOOLS. This needs to be an issue at the forfront of the upcoming presidential race – gun control. Make your voice and vote count.”


Just the second sentence, the fact that you live in SF, makes me doubt your cognitive capacity. From what I have seen nearly everyone in the country view the “important laws” being passed left and right in SF as ridiculous and completely illegitimate. Our country needs some people to step up and make some changes for the better instead of attempting all this prissy “its all the gun’s fault” bullshit. I’m an 18 year old kid who has been able to hit a bullseye at 100 yards with a rifle since i was 7 years old (no joke), not to mention i have probably watched more violent movies and played more violent video games than many people, and yet I still have the ability to discern right from wrong and real from fake. The reason we have so many psychopaths in the country is because of the lack of general education and poor parenting that continues on as a general rule in this country day after day. Its because everyone wants everything spoon fed to them, many of whom have no common sense or ability to make decisions for themselves.


# 53 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 4:40 am

Guns are a tool meant to be used to defend good, not to promote evil. If just one student in one of those
classrooms had been allowed to practice their God-given right of self-defense, by carrying a firearm, the death toll would have been far lower.

One might think that Europe, a region with a history of evil tyrants, would understand and agree with the US 2nd Amendment. Sadly, rape victims, robbery victims etc., in Europe, have absolutely no immediate personal recourse in preserving their physical well-being. Instead, they are left at the mercy of people, like the Virginia killer, who have no regard for laws of civility.

It is said that America’s 2nd Amendment preserves the rest of the constitution. It endures as a method for the common man to thwart the evil intent of criminals, tyrants and invaders. This is not a right bestowed by any Government. No, this is the right of self-preservation that shall never be infringed upon!

In the minds of those of us that understand this very basic premise, we share in the grief of the friends and families of those lost in Virginia; for it is our loss as well. But we also understand that only evil intents will be served, and those lost will have died in vain, if this incident is used to promote any further discussion on the matter of gun confiscation.


# 54 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 6:30 am

Anonymous said…

“This is yet again an example of why the USA is a terrible country. I’m a citizen – a ‘normal white guy’ living in SF – just so you don’t think I’m a foreign US hater.”

Because people in SF are universally known for their unbiased views. Identifying yourself as a liberal does not autmatically make you the most open-minded person in the room.

“It’s freaking retarded that we continue to allow people to buy guns that have magazine clips allowing the shooter to easily fire multiple rounds. Handguns and ANY gun allowing the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading should be illegal.”

This is a statement of opinion that seems to have no basis in reality. Unless it’s an antique or a specialty firearm, most guns “allow the user to fire off multiple rounds without reloading.” Please acquire a basic working knowledge of your subject that is not based on what you see on television or the oft-recycled talking points of your likewise ill-informed friends before forming an opinion that you feel compelled to share with the rest of us.

“You CAN still honor the 1st ammendment by allowing single shot hunting rifles and shotguns.”

What a relief to know that I can still have freedom of religion, speech, press, and assembly while armed with my shotgun. Seems like maybe you need a refresher on the Constitution, if indeed you’ve ever even bothered reading it. Here’s something that will rock your world: “Snipers” use single shot bolt-action hunting rifles. You should probably stop speaking now, but I’m betting you’re about to start crusading against these dangerous single shot rifles next.

“I can’t believe that some NRA group put out a press release stating that this wouldn’t have happened if the other students were able to carry conceiled handguns”

Do you know that they are wrong, or are you simply driven to disagree with them because of who they are? Their point is not necessarily to advocate more people carrying guns. In this case, they obviously knew that people like you were going to jump on the hysteria bandwagon, and they felt a need to premptively re-state their support of protecting law abiding citizens right to carry firearms in a legal manner.

“what freaking dumb asses – can you imagine every jackass on the street carrying a gun?!”

Yes, because that’s EXACTLY what they were saying. Idiot.

“It may take us 50 years to get there, but we really must have much more stringent laws on the manufacture and distribution of guns on the US”

First of all; not going to happen. You’re obviously not a student of history, or you know that something like that is especially unlikely to happen in a mere 50 years without some sort of brownshirt style government crackdown. Second; historically all this ever course of action ever does is put guns squarely in the hands of criminals. This case in particular is an excellent demonstration of why you should keep your idiotic half-formed opinions to yourself. Like most criminals, he got the guns illegaly. Making it harder for a law abiding citizen to buy a gun is not going to affect a determined person like him.

“- and get the existing guns off the street and black market.”

Oh, good thing you covered your ass with that one. See how well it worked in Russia, or Britain. Yes, Britain. Look it up.

Just look at our murder rates by guns vs. that of any other 1st world nation. WE ARE THE FOOLS.

What do you mean “we”, paleface? We have more gun violence, they have more bat, machete, and gang beating violence. Your stance is poorly constructed and alarmingly narrow in focus. Unsurprisingly, it sounds more like a soundbite than a well-constructed opinion.

“This needs to be an issue at the forfront of the upcoming presidential race – gun control. Make your voice and vote count.”

Yes, because focusing on hot-button issues like gun control and oh, say, gay marriage, as opposed to broader issues of policy and foreign relations has never bitten us in the ass before. People like you are going to hand the republicans another election.

Please STFU until you manage to educate yourself in a manner that challenges your pre-existing opinions.


# 55 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 6:52 am

lol, the fact people missed out on what caused this person to kill people:

Enormous stress caused by peoples inherent racism and prejudice.

I’m sure this kid had to put up with a lot of shit in his life yet he is demonized as a “killer” he was a STUDENT and HUMAN BEING who for some reason took his frustration out on others… I think the better question is: Are citizens themselves the prejudiced racist barbarians that ask turn normal human beings into killers do to their petty racism and prejudice?

The answer is not more guns for more people, the answer is this: You humanity are barbarians, you stress people out to to the brink in your own neglect of treating other people with decency, yet you are the most mindless digusting hed like creature imaginable: 21st century commercial barbarian, who’s only goal is what can I consume today?

Most people are barbarians I’m not surprised school shootings keep happening, most people are disgusting creatures to begin with who deserve little more then a bullet in the back of the head and a quick death.


# 56 - Matt - 18/04/2007 - 11:25 am

“Like most criminals, he got the guns illegaly.”

See, that’s not true. He bought two guns legally. You are spreading false information. Not only is this ethically wrong, it also destroys the credibility of the rest of your argument.

“Hell, their citizens go to jail for defending themselves with knives against criminals with guns.”

Also not true. It is perfectly legal in Australia to defend yourself, even with a gun, if your life is in danger. Of course, the gun must be registered and the owner must be licensed.

“Guns are banned at VT and that’s WHY this happened in a bad way. If guns would have been allowed, there would have been less than 5 people killed.”

This is a logical fallacy. This person bought the guns legally. If he was unable to legally obtain a gun then it would have been much harder for him to get it. A large amount of the weapons on the black market are weapons that have been legally purchased and then stolen. It’s certainly not the case for all of them, but if you have done the reading like you all seem to say, then you’d know that. Tighter gun restrictions also make it much harder for straw purchases to occur, which is how the Columbine shooters got their weapons.

Gun control is not about preventing gun related crime. It’s about minimizing it. There are several things that need to be done.

Require licenses, registration and background checks for all gun sales. Increase the penalties for the illegal sale of weapons and increase the resources for the agencies who have the responsibility to enforce this. At the same time we need to look into why these types of incidents are occurring. Why is it that a person feels the need to go out and shoot 32 people? Is this indicative of a prevailing social problem?


# 57 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 6:01 pm

It’s like Conter Strike but for reals…

/Terrorists win


# 58 - Jonas - 18/04/2007 - 6:54 pm

I know banning guns is no option, but obviously something needs to be done. Perhaps a simple phsych test to see if someone is likely to snap before you give them a gun? True any criminal can get a gun if he really wants to, but a lot of these things are crimes of passion, and are not thought out before hand. If someone snaps, and has anything OTHER than a gun in his hand, a lot less people will die.


# 59 - Anonymous - 18/04/2007 - 8:31 pm

US has great gun laws. how bout some more guns, maybe for free?


# 60 - Anonymous - 19/04/2007 - 12:12 am

You guys are retarded, no gun laws are going to make a damn bit of difference. Just because you live in the middle of a city and can’t see any reason for an American to have a gun, doesn’t mean that they should be banned or production on them should be stopped. Maybe you don’t NEED a gun or WANT a gun, but its my fuggin right to have my guns. To take a stance against firearms, just shows your ignorance as to what most Americans use guns for, its not like every gun sold is sold with the intent to kill someone, or yeah, that would make perfect sense to ban them.


# 61 - just.xTc - 19/04/2007 - 6:16 am

Some guy said…

“The answer is not more guns for more people, the answer is this: You humanity are barbarians, you stress people out to to the brink in your own neglect of treating other people with decency, yet you are the most mindless disgusting head like creature imaginable: 21st century commercial barbarian, who’s only goal is what can I consume today?”

So true. Humans are shit, laws can’t change that because we are inherently evil, prejudiced and violent. Where else do we get rednecks and conservatives?


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